Chile: the balanced view : a recopilation of articles about the Allende years and after

ber~October 1967, 1was told, not aSked, by well known reporters of our leading media outlets, by Congressmen, Senators, and their staffs ofthe very large United States role in the election of 1964 in Chi le; that is, the large effort mounted covertly. BUCKLEY: In behalf of Frei against Allende. KORRY: Against Allende. Al! of these people presumably have known all about this and, indeed, the staff of the Senate subcommittee that is making al! of these allegalions spoke lo me gratuitously aboul their knowledge in prívate. So Ihey knew and presumably Senator Church who is the Chairman of that subcommíttee is not being kept ín the dark by hís own staff. BLlCKt.:EY: Although that may be. KORRY: It is possíble. It is possible.ln any event, it was an open se'cret butforten years lo this date, nobody has written about thal. It was known, for example, when I testified in front of a Senate subcommittee in 1973 and when 1was inlerrogaled by them privately in '72 thal the Forty Committee wasn't being -and, indeed, in public testimony they cited it, asked me about il, and Ihey knew, for example, that Ihe Attorney General of Ihe United States, both in the Kennedy period and in Ihe Nixon period, are participating in those meetings. An? thal hasn't been talked about, although privately I've asked members of the press why It hasn'l been talked aboul. Those were the pollcies that Presiaent had been carrying out to my knowledge since the end of the war and had in their deliberative wisdom decided that this was in the interest of the United States. Now no one has suggested that I carried out any policy that was not approved by this Executive Branch committee or that we were deviating in any wayfrom known policy, That ís a púiicy that was directed against the Communist Party of Chile which happens to be the largest -happened to be; it's been eliminated now with the conditions in Chile as a legal party- but it was the largest, besl led, most influentíal single Communist Party ir;¡ this hemisphere. And it was American policy to keep it out of power. BUCKLEY: How do vou account tor the factthat Ambassador Daniel Patrick Movnihan in India when he picked up the dispatchers and saw the revelations ofthe last week or two should have cabled the State Department expressing his huge dismay at learning that the CIA was involved in Chile because he haá just finished assuring Indira Gandhi that we weren't involved. And now, says he, he's lost his credibility and they're going to make atom bombs and all that kind of stuff. Now if all these things were an open secret, why was it aclosed secret to an Ambassador who, as amatter of fact, resides over the laígest embassy in the world in New Delhi? . KORRY: It was an open secret in 1967 when Pat Moynihan was engagedin domestíc affairs. And it is possible, perhaps even likely, that he was not part ofthis open secret círcle. Secondly, 1assume that rather than ask the Indíans or talk to the United States about the Indian role in, say, Bangladesh ín -the events that preceded Bangladesh or in the takeover of Sikkhim right now and ils corporatíon into India that it's belter to go on record with your own dismay so that you retain some credibility. BUCKLEY: 1see. In other words, this simply may have been calculated topass his critics in New Delhi. KORRY: To keep his credibility as a human -as an individual representative with the Indian government and intellectuals. BUCKLEY: Although it's kind of hard on you. KORRY: Not really. BUCKLEY: Not really. Uh-huh. Well, now, so there you are, you're going back to Chile and we haven't tried to bribe them and Allende does become Presiden!. It is now charged that money was authorized and perhaps you will tell us whether it was spent to oppose Allende. They used a general term, destabilize. Do you reject it? KORRY: I didn't reject il. Mr. Colby has in a letter. BUCKLEY: Mr. Colby has in the letter, yeah. But we all know that Allende carne up 10 the United Natíons, and he wenl all over Europe shortly before he died and said that the reason that Chilean Marxism was running into such special difficulties was not Marx but the United States. We were always 290